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		<title>By: Junita</title>
		<link>http://www.more4kids.info/449/spank-free-alernatives/#comment-188668</link>
		<dc:creator>Junita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have done it both ways. I though spanking was the only way to get though to him. But in the back of my mind. I think what am I doing? Would I hit another person because they did something I didn&#039;t like? Lets say another co-worker. What am I teaching him. Its ok to hit if another kid when they are not doing as you say? Well I did some research and found the answer. I simply pick out a spot. Which is in front of my fire place and I also use his room when he is really bad and I need a minate to myself. I tell him one time to do something. If he doesn&#039;t do it. I tell him again with the consequence. For example. Tyler stop screaming. If he doesn&#039;t listen. I say Tyler stop screaming or you will sit in front of the fire place. Then if he doesn&#039;t stop. I immediately without another word  pick him up and sit him in front of the fire place. Explain why he is there and walk away. In the beginning he would sometimes  leave the fire place. I would immediately pick him up and put him back as many times as it takes. If they are there and making a lot of noise or trying to get your attention try to ignore them. Now this takes time. But I can now do this without picking him up. I just tell him to go sit in front of the fire place and he does. 1 min for every year they are. Then walk over and tell them again why their there. tell them to tell you their sorry, then give them a hug and a kiss tell them you love them. And the end is the most important part. Because I know my son thinks I don&#039;t love him when I&#039;m mad at him. Because that how he views me when he mad at me. That usually the first thing he asks me &quot; do you still love me&quot; I tell him yes I do, I&#039;m just mad at what you did. You can use this out in public. I use toys. When ever I&#039;m shopping. If he starts to act up, I warn him the same way. Tyler stop &quot; what ever the problem is&quot; one time then again with the consequence. He has had as many as 7 toys put up WOW! But as soon as I got home, I started with he favorite and took the 7 away. Now I take it away for 1 day. But I&#039;m sure a few hrs would work. If you didn&#039;t want to use toys use the sitting place you choose. The only thing with that. you not suppose to add say 7 bad things you did X 4 years of age so you have to sit there for 28 mins. That to much for them to understand . So that&#039;s why I came up with the toys. But over all spanking is temporary fix and my blood pressure was though the roof. But I&#039;m more at peace because he knows I&#039;m not kidding. Don&#039;t do what I say and you will have to sit in front of the fire place and be bored lol. He not that bad to handle now. But I&#039;m still working with my second child (my husband on this lol). Oh also my throat doesn&#039;t hurt from screaming all the time. Try it for a month and you will see the difference. But you have to stick to it hard in the beginning. Never tell them more then twice and stick to putting them on their spots no mater how many times you have to do it because they will give up and sit there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have done it both ways. I though spanking was the only way to get though to him. But in the back of my mind. I think what am I doing? Would I hit another person because they did something I didn&#039;t like? Lets say another co-worker. What am I teaching him. Its ok to hit if another kid when they are not doing as you say? Well I did some research and found the answer. I simply pick out a spot. Which is in front of my fire place and I also use his room when he is really bad and I need a minate to myself. I tell him one time to do something. If he doesn&#039;t do it. I tell him again with the consequence. For example. Tyler stop screaming. If he doesn&#039;t listen. I say Tyler stop screaming or you will sit in front of the fire place. Then if he doesn&#039;t stop. I immediately without another word  pick him up and sit him in front of the fire place. Explain why he is there and walk away. In the beginning he would sometimes  leave the fire place. I would immediately pick him up and put him back as many times as it takes. If they are there and making a lot of noise or trying to get your attention try to ignore them. Now this takes time. But I can now do this without picking him up. I just tell him to go sit in front of the fire place and he does. 1 min for every year they are. Then walk over and tell them again why their there. tell them to tell you their sorry, then give them a hug and a kiss tell them you love them. And the end is the most important part. Because I know my son thinks I don&#039;t love him when I&#039;m mad at him. Because that how he views me when he mad at me. That usually the first thing he asks me &#034; do you still love me&#034; I tell him yes I do, I&#039;m just mad at what you did. You can use this out in public. I use toys. When ever I&#039;m shopping. If he starts to act up, I warn him the same way. Tyler stop &#034; what ever the problem is&#034; one time then again with the consequence. He has had as many as 7 toys put up WOW! But as soon as I got home, I started with he favorite and took the 7 away. Now I take it away for 1 day. But I&#039;m sure a few hrs would work. If you didn&#039;t want to use toys use the sitting place you choose. The only thing with that. you not suppose to add say 7 bad things you did X 4 years of age so you have to sit there for 28 mins. That to much for them to understand . So that&#039;s why I came up with the toys. But over all spanking is temporary fix and my blood pressure was though the roof. But I&#039;m more at peace because he knows I&#039;m not kidding. Don&#039;t do what I say and you will have to sit in front of the fire place and be bored lol. He not that bad to handle now. But I&#039;m still working with my second child (my husband on this lol). Oh also my throat doesn&#039;t hurt from screaming all the time. Try it for a month and you will see the difference. But you have to stick to it hard in the beginning. Never tell them more then twice and stick to putting them on their spots no mater how many times you have to do it because they will give up and sit there.</p>
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		<title>By: Cray</title>
		<link>http://www.more4kids.info/449/spank-free-alernatives/#comment-27850</link>
		<dc:creator>Cray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion is the earlier you disipline your child the better.  Children have a natural right to be spanked by there parent&#039;s.  And I&#039;m not talking about that abusive spanking either.  I&#039;m talking about meaning what you say and backing it up with a little reinforcment  when necessary.  They&#039;ll love you more afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is the earlier you disipline your child the better.  Children have a natural right to be spanked by there parent&#039;s.  And I&#039;m not talking about that abusive spanking either.  I&#039;m talking about meaning what you say and backing it up with a little reinforcment  when necessary.  They&#039;ll love you more afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.more4kids.info/449/spank-free-alernatives/#comment-27843</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All children are different and some require a spanking and some talking to them will do. I have raised 5 kids and none of them were the same. I did not do everything right but I did turn out some very good  kids , not a lemon among them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All children are different and some require a spanking and some talking to them will do. I have raised 5 kids and none of them were the same. I did not do everything right but I did turn out some very good  kids , not a lemon among them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son used to hit me on the leg and I used to say it hurts dont do it again.   But he never stopped only when I spanked him on the leg and he cried it hurts! it hurts! and told him that how I feel and he never did it again.

Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son used to hit me on the leg and I used to say it hurts dont do it again.   But he never stopped only when I spanked him on the leg and he cried it hurts! it hurts! and told him that how I feel and he never did it again.</p>
<p>Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.more4kids.info/449/spank-free-alernatives/#comment-27787</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that whilst hitting a child is wrong, a &#039;tap&#039; is sometime necessary. Kids sometimes get so enthralled in their own world they they just don&#039;t hear you (not always mind!)

Generally speaking, a firm tone should be enough. It usually is for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that whilst hitting a child is wrong, a &#039;tap&#039; is sometime necessary. Kids sometimes get so enthralled in their own world they they just don&#039;t hear you (not always mind!)</p>
<p>Generally speaking, a firm tone should be enough. It usually is for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin P.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.more4kids.info/449/spank-free-alernatives/#comment-27780</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin P.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And people wonder what is wrong with kids today?
&quot;But how are we ever going to teach our children that it is not alright to hurt others when we continue to hurt them as well?&quot;

First of all, often times discipline hurts the person getting disciplined regardless of whether it is grounding, a timeout, or a spanking.  The very nature of disciplining a child is to teach them (through punishment) that doing something wrong 1. is bad  2. results in unpleasant consequences.  You know why some toddlers chronically hit, pinch, and bite?  Its because it when they perform that action, they always get a specific response from the receiver of their action, making them feel like they have control over the environment.  Do you know what most psychologists say to do in those circumstances?  Bite/pinch/hit the child back (not as hard as you can of course, just enough to hurt the toddler).  Because in most cases, the toddler was 1. to some extent unaware how much his actions were hurting the receiver  2. testing the limits of what is/isn&#039;t acceptable behavior.  Biting back lets the kid know that if they cross that boundary, there are unpleasant consequences as well as that they hurt other people when they do it.

Of course there is a difference between spanking and beating.  Beating a child is wrong.  Period.  Spanking when done right, is can be a loving/good way to discipline a child.  For children, immediate, memorable consequences rather than prolonged ones are more effective at molding behavior.  If a kid is grounded, it presents the child with an opportunity to excercise control over the parent, another medium in which to try to challenge the parent&#039;s authority.  If a parent gives in, which in circumstances will inevitably happen (5 year olds are stubborn by nature) it encourages 
1. more of the behavior that warranted the punishment to begin with and 2. the idea that the parent is not the final authority figure

Spanking when done correctly, in the right circumstances tells the child 1.  I am the adult (bigger than you).  I can hurt you if I want, but I love you and do not want to.  I am the authority figure.
2.  I love you enough to correct your behavior, even if it means hurting you temporarily.
3.  I set the boundaries of acceptable behavior and you as the child need to respect those boundaries.  For a child, learning to behave correctly comes first and learning the reasons why certain behaviors are appropriate/inappropriate comes later.

By correctly, I mean 
1.  Spanking should not be done in anger.  If you punish any child in anger, you risk disproportionately punishing the child and with spanking, you risk spanking too hard and hurting the child.  If you regularly resort to spanking in anger, you are telling the child that he/she can control you on some level by pushing you to lose your temper.  Kids pick up on these patterns quickly.  You are also reinforcing the idea that when you lose your temper it is ok to resort to physical violence.
2.  Tell the child the reasons for the punishment and why such actions warrant the punishment.  For example, if the child is hitting other people, take the child aside and say &quot;Hitting other children is wrong, because you cannot use violence to solve an argument.  Even if you are mad, you can not hit other people.&quot;  Note that if you are angry when you do this, you as the parent are creating an interesting incongruancy for the child.  In the truth of the matter you are being a hypocrite.
3.  Tell the child after the punishment that you still love them.  Its important after any punishment to reinforce the fact that as their parent, you will always love them, even if they make a mistake.  It also reinforces the idea that the punishment was performed out of love and concern for the child and his proper development/welfare.

To the woman with the child who hits, I would tell her to control her temper during her child&#039;s bouts of violence.  When you lose your temper you lose control of the situation.  By losing your temper, you are giving him a victory in this contest of wills.  It sounds that what the child is doing is similar to my explanation of the toddlers who chronically bite.  Your son has learned how to control you and the situation (the cycle of hitting, you punishing him, his continued hitting, you getting angry, and then you spanking).  If you don&#039;t think that he has learned the pattern to this cycle, you&#039;re wrong.  He knows what he is doing and he is probably doing it on purpose to some extent.  

You have already dug yourself a hole here because as of right now, the child has the upper hand.  He knows how to push your buttons and escalate the situation. The trick now is to turn the tables and let your son know that he can NOT control you, even with his bad behavior.  

What you need to do is make a preemptive strike.  Take the child aside and let him know why hitting is wrong.  Then, outline a punishment that he will get when he hits, an appropriate punishment that you see fit.  In the end, the most important thing is that you stick to the punishment no matter what!  If the child is hitting in the midst of a rage induced temper tantrum, and you need to spank him in order to get his attention and stop the tantrum, do so, but do it BEFORE you reach the point of being angry and before the tantrum escalates.  If you are not comfortable with this, another method is to isolate the child, (forcibly if necessary) until their temper tantrum subsides.  Depending on the child&#039;s age, a temper tantrum or two every once in awhile is natural and part of growing up.  Once the child has calmed down, enforce the earlier outlined punishment.

But above all, do not let the child dictate the mood of the encounter and take control out of your hands.  You are the adult.  If you feel yourself about to lose control of your temper, isolate the child (in his room) until you have both calmed down, and then enforce your punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And people wonder what is wrong with kids today?<br />
&#034;But how are we ever going to teach our children that it is not alright to hurt others when we continue to hurt them as well?&#034;</p>
<p>First of all, often times discipline hurts the person getting disciplined regardless of whether it is grounding, a timeout, or a spanking.  The very nature of disciplining a child is to teach them (through punishment) that doing something wrong 1. is bad  2. results in unpleasant consequences.  You know why some toddlers chronically hit, pinch, and bite?  Its because it when they perform that action, they always get a specific response from the receiver of their action, making them feel like they have control over the environment.  Do you know what most psychologists say to do in those circumstances?  Bite/pinch/hit the child back (not as hard as you can of course, just enough to hurt the toddler).  Because in most cases, the toddler was 1. to some extent unaware how much his actions were hurting the receiver  2. testing the limits of what is/isn&#039;t acceptable behavior.  Biting back lets the kid know that if they cross that boundary, there are unpleasant consequences as well as that they hurt other people when they do it.</p>
<p>Of course there is a difference between spanking and beating.  Beating a child is wrong.  Period.  Spanking when done right, is can be a loving/good way to discipline a child.  For children, immediate, memorable consequences rather than prolonged ones are more effective at molding behavior.  If a kid is grounded, it presents the child with an opportunity to excercise control over the parent, another medium in which to try to challenge the parent&#039;s authority.  If a parent gives in, which in circumstances will inevitably happen (5 year olds are stubborn by nature) it encourages<br />
1. more of the behavior that warranted the punishment to begin with and 2. the idea that the parent is not the final authority figure</p>
<p>Spanking when done correctly, in the right circumstances tells the child 1.  I am the adult (bigger than you).  I can hurt you if I want, but I love you and do not want to.  I am the authority figure.<br />
2.  I love you enough to correct your behavior, even if it means hurting you temporarily.<br />
3.  I set the boundaries of acceptable behavior and you as the child need to respect those boundaries.  For a child, learning to behave correctly comes first and learning the reasons why certain behaviors are appropriate/inappropriate comes later.</p>
<p>By correctly, I mean<br />
1.  Spanking should not be done in anger.  If you punish any child in anger, you risk disproportionately punishing the child and with spanking, you risk spanking too hard and hurting the child.  If you regularly resort to spanking in anger, you are telling the child that he/she can control you on some level by pushing you to lose your temper.  Kids pick up on these patterns quickly.  You are also reinforcing the idea that when you lose your temper it is ok to resort to physical violence.<br />
2.  Tell the child the reasons for the punishment and why such actions warrant the punishment.  For example, if the child is hitting other people, take the child aside and say &#034;Hitting other children is wrong, because you cannot use violence to solve an argument.  Even if you are mad, you can not hit other people.&#034;  Note that if you are angry when you do this, you as the parent are creating an interesting incongruancy for the child.  In the truth of the matter you are being a hypocrite.<br />
3.  Tell the child after the punishment that you still love them.  Its important after any punishment to reinforce the fact that as their parent, you will always love them, even if they make a mistake.  It also reinforces the idea that the punishment was performed out of love and concern for the child and his proper development/welfare.</p>
<p>To the woman with the child who hits, I would tell her to control her temper during her child&#039;s bouts of violence.  When you lose your temper you lose control of the situation.  By losing your temper, you are giving him a victory in this contest of wills.  It sounds that what the child is doing is similar to my explanation of the toddlers who chronically bite.  Your son has learned how to control you and the situation (the cycle of hitting, you punishing him, his continued hitting, you getting angry, and then you spanking).  If you don&#039;t think that he has learned the pattern to this cycle, you&#039;re wrong.  He knows what he is doing and he is probably doing it on purpose to some extent.  </p>
<p>You have already dug yourself a hole here because as of right now, the child has the upper hand.  He knows how to push your buttons and escalate the situation. The trick now is to turn the tables and let your son know that he can NOT control you, even with his bad behavior.  </p>
<p>What you need to do is make a preemptive strike.  Take the child aside and let him know why hitting is wrong.  Then, outline a punishment that he will get when he hits, an appropriate punishment that you see fit.  In the end, the most important thing is that you stick to the punishment no matter what!  If the child is hitting in the midst of a rage induced temper tantrum, and you need to spank him in order to get his attention and stop the tantrum, do so, but do it BEFORE you reach the point of being angry and before the tantrum escalates.  If you are not comfortable with this, another method is to isolate the child, (forcibly if necessary) until their temper tantrum subsides.  Depending on the child&#039;s age, a temper tantrum or two every once in awhile is natural and part of growing up.  Once the child has calmed down, enforce the earlier outlined punishment.</p>
<p>But above all, do not let the child dictate the mood of the encounter and take control out of your hands.  You are the adult.  If you feel yourself about to lose control of your temper, isolate the child (in his room) until you have both calmed down, and then enforce your punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent suggestions. I&#039;ve found nothing works better than a calm, logical conversation about one&#039;s feelings and motivations with my 2-year-old son.

Seriously, ever tried to talk about why he did something or &quot;are you angry?&quot; with a toddler?

A light slap on the hand gets their attention and stops the behavior. And like all discipline, it need constant repetition and regularity with whatever actions you are trying to curb. Clearly - don&#039;t every beat a child. But some form of corporal punishment can be necessary in certain situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent suggestions. I&#039;ve found nothing works better than a calm, logical conversation about one&#039;s feelings and motivations with my 2-year-old son.</p>
<p>Seriously, ever tried to talk about why he did something or &#034;are you angry?&#034; with a toddler?</p>
<p>A light slap on the hand gets their attention and stops the behavior. And like all discipline, it need constant repetition and regularity with whatever actions you are trying to curb. Clearly &#8211; don&#039;t every beat a child. But some form of corporal punishment can be necessary in certain situations.</p>
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